tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15240575.post8972131334933274319..comments2024-02-05T17:15:59.703-06:00Comments on hawgblawg: Prime-time situation comedy in Israel on Palestinians ("Israeli Arabs")Ted Swedenburghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05355038670178440138noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15240575.post-13093312651809623612008-01-09T08:47:00.000-06:002008-01-09T08:47:00.000-06:00The 'standard' is that of the historical Zionist m...The 'standard' is that of the historical Zionist movement, not my own. Yes, in terms of labor, Israel now looks something like many other Mediterranean. My only point, in my very brief discussion is that the t.v. show, by calling itself of 'Avoda Aravit,' seems to be alluding to the failure of Israel to achieve the standard ('Hebrew Labor') that its pioneers and founders set for the country.Ted Swedenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05355038670178440138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15240575.post-72808903782084601022008-01-08T19:09:00.000-06:002008-01-08T19:09:00.000-06:00Yes, but this is largely the result of the success...Yes, but this is largely the result of the success and prosperity of the nation. There's no reasonably wealthy country in the Mediterranean where the indigenous population (if you'll forgive the term) does the bulk of the manual labor. Not Greece, not Italy, not Cyprus, not France, not Spain, not even Turkey or Lebanon! <BR/><BR/>You'd be holding Jews to a standard that no one else is expected to meet. But that's part of the game, I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15240575.post-21442171638949064602008-01-08T10:57:00.000-06:002008-01-08T10:57:00.000-06:00The aim of the Zionist movement was to create a Je...The aim of the Zionist movement was to create a Jewish nation where Jews occupied all occupational strata, unlike in the ghettos of Eastern Europe where they were restricted to particular occupations. The reality is that today's Jewish state, Israel, has a substantial non-Jewish minority (almost 20% of the population) who are second-class citizens and who occupy the lower rungs of the job hierarchy. (At the bottom are migrant workers: Palestinians from the West Bank--none now from Gaza--plus substantial numbers of others from abroad.) The dream of "Avoda 'Ivrit" was not fulfilled.Ted Swedenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05355038670178440138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15240575.post-79205307464482023342008-01-08T00:22:00.000-06:002008-01-08T00:22:00.000-06:00Subversion or success? How much hard manual labor ...Subversion or success? How much hard manual labor do you do? Would your grandfather consider you a failure for it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com